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(sabine?cretella@87.18.157.232 with plain)\n  by smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Aug 2006 10:33:21 -0000\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;44D8686F.3040303@yahoo.it&gt;\r\nDate: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:33:19 +0200\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (Windows/20060719)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;AOEHKCKOIOGPGCNLDEKBCEKNCPAA.d.briel@free.fr&gt; &lt;200608071914.16161.mail@marcprior.de&gt; &lt;44D779E3.8060609@yahoo.it&gt; &lt;200608071958.45283.mail@marcprior.de&gt; &lt;44D78F93.50204@yahoo.it&gt; &lt;44D79F72.7090606@gmail.com&gt; &lt;44D8509B.9090801@yahoo.it&gt; &lt;web-113367203@tut.by&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;web-113367203@tut.by&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\r\nX-Originating-IP: 217.12.11.63\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:0:0:0\r\nFrom: Sabine Cretella &lt;sabine_cretella@yahoo.it&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Linux distro with OmegaT\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=66013851; y=yTSWC5Wc1o31QW1t7ex_bOSuhmEYmOGC4enN2FLPCwlO7eKYVhlJkZns\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: sabine_cretella\r\n\r\nWell, if we can get a live cd of one of these distros in order to be \nable to give it to people that&#39;s ok - btw. there is also Kubuntu.\n\nWe can talk with Shuttleworth - if we don&#39;t try we won&#39;t get what we \nneed. We just have to talk.\n\nOne of the mayor issues why people don&#39;t pass to linux is that it is \nsaid to be &quot;difficult&quot;, that you cannot just put it there and it works \n... well: it is true up to a certain point. What is iportant to my \nopinion is that people can try things out - this means: live CD. There&#39;s \nno way around it ... or we need to create also a reseller&#39;s network who \nis able to setup linux without woes on a computer. The problem there is: \npeople have to pay to try it out ... so again: a live CD would be the \nbest way to see if things work.\n\nI am not a linux expert ... no, I am far away ... but I saw that one can \nget things working without too much of a headache. If you can get things \nworking with a particular distro it must also be possible to create that \ndistro with all things needed preinstalled.\n\nWe should not consider people like many of us in this groups, those who \nlove to try around and work in various Open Source and Open Content \nprojects - we should really consider the average computer user - and \nthese very often have problems to do the easiest things.\n\nSo: if this is possible with Mandriva and (Open)Suse we should also try \nto find out that way - if it impiles users to install Linux first, we \ncan forget about it and we should concentrate on those where we have the \npossibilities to say: just try it (Ubuntu, Knoppix etc.).\n\nBtw. also having a computer boot from a CD can be a major issue if the \nboot sequence needs to be changed in the computer setup.\n\nCiao, Sabine\n\np.s. leaving the whole message in place since i distribute to some more \npeople\n\n\nDmitri Gabinski schrieb:\n&gt;\n&gt; Tue, 08 Aug 2006 10:51:39 +0200, Sabine Cretella\n&gt; &lt;sabine_cretella@yahoo.it &lt;mailto:sabine_cretella%40yahoo.it&gt;&gt; skribis:\n&gt;\n&gt; &gt; I believe that Ubuntu would be the best way to get it done- it now \n&gt; works\n&gt; &gt; without too many problems on most computers (my laptop is an issue for\n&gt; &gt; many distros - Ubuntu now works - Knoppix does not - that was my reason\n&gt; &gt; to install Ubuntu).\n&gt;\n&gt; Sabine, I have to contradict. I find Ubuntu a bad choice for those who&#39;re\n&gt; new in Linux trying it out, and particularly for Africa.\n&gt; 1) Ubuntu comes with that fake Java that is not suitable for OmegaT and\n&gt; Sun&#39;s licesing policy, AFAIK, does not allow including JRE into totally\n&gt; GPL&#39;d distros. And installing Java under Linux is not exactly piece of\n&gt; cake.\n&gt; 2) In reality, Ubuntu comes only with very basic software, and you need\n&gt; connection to Internet to have anything else. Moreover, you&#39;re likely to\n&gt; find some alphas and betas instead of working final versions (for \n&gt; example,\n&gt; Ubuntu 5.10 came with some developers&#39; build of OpenOffice.org claiming\n&gt; though it was a real 2.0 — that left me with sense of being defrauded) so:\n&gt; 2.1) what&#39;s Internet penetration rate in Africa?\n&gt; 2.2) setting Internet under Ubuntu or any other Linux is a tricky\n&gt; thing\n&gt; (especially if you have a dialup with a winmodem — that&#39;s very likely\n&gt; in\n&gt; Africa as in other less developed countries).\n&gt; 3) Ubuntu is Gnome-based and Gnome is less convenient compared to KDE (at\n&gt; least, KDE on SUSE is much more transparent than Gnome on Ubuntu).\n&gt;\n&gt; I&#39;d love to have a Linux with working Java and OmegaT and I think such a\n&gt; distro is more likely to emerge from Mandriva or (Open)SUSE.\n&gt;\n&gt; Best regards,\n&gt;\n&gt; Dmitri Gabinski\n&gt;\n&gt; ------\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt;  \n\nChiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! \n http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com \r\n\n"}}