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I m not going to get into a long, drawn out argument with you. You seem more interested in hectoring than helping. So be it. I","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;bowjest@googlemail.com&gt;\r\nReceived: (qmail 71523 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2010 07:47:57 -0000\r\nReceived: from unknown (66.196.94.106)\n  by m14.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2010 07:47:57 -0000\r\nReceived: from unknown (HELO n39b.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.168.153)\n  by mta2.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2010 07:47:57 -0000\r\nDKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1264405677; bh=pJiSbJQKI+G+py3xO9nHaFI+9/bM3HWa7jsM3jeit14=; h=Received:Received:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:From:Subject:X-Yahoo-Group-Post:X-YGroups-SubInfo:Sender:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-eGroups-Approved-By:X-eGroups-Auth; b=kwO8uRxWFHSFk1b5aBQm/57JttLO278pXNzA+TsAPj3dLOpv1EUStYm/d4ZOMVhglOtPRzN7BlZ/dM9/w73hZkGyCA9gnl7YP3pP2ZnnISG9taWXriNStjZpWiHYeyW2\r\nReceived: from [69.147.65.171] by n39.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2010 07:47:57 -0000\r\nReceived: from [98.137.34.72] by t13.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jan 2010 07:47:57 -0000\r\nX-Sender: bowjest@googlemail.com\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 18580 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2010 07:36:54 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.196.94.105)\n  by m5.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Jan 2010 07:36:54 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO mail-ew0-f214.google.com) (209.85.219.214)\n  by mta1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jan 2010 07:36:54 -0000\r\nX-Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so1999646ewy.34\n        for &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:36:53 -0800 (PST)\r\nX-Received: by 10.213.109.156 with SMTP id j28mr3311119ebp.79.1264405013606;\n        Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:36:53 -0800 (PST)\r\nX-Received: from will-heltons-macbook-pro.local ([91.125.225.116])\n        by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm8020407eyd.29.2010.01.24.23.36.52\n        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5);\n        Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:36:53 -0800 (PST)\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;4B5D4A13.9020905@gmail.com&gt;\r\nDate: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:36:51 +0000\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;AOEHKCKOIOGPGCNLDEKBOEEDGHAA.d.briel@free.fr&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;AOEHKCKOIOGPGCNLDEKBOEEDGHAA.d.briel@free.fr&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\r\nX-Originating-IP: 209.85.219.214\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: bowjest &lt;bowjest@googlemail.com&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Using OmegaT on a Mac\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=431570633\r\nX-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-system\r\nX-eGroups-Approved-By: lin4trans &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt; via web; 25 Jan 2010 07:47:56 -0000\r\n\r\nDidier,\n\nThanks for your reply.\n\nI&#39;m not going to get into a long, drawn out argument with you. You seem \nmore interested in hectoring than helping. So be it.\n\nI work as a software tester and can assure you that if your hope is for \nthis product to become commercially viable you have issues that need to \nbe addressed.\n\nWhen you first create a project, you have no directories in which to put \nsource material (until the project creation has completed). It is \ntherefore counterintuitive immediately upon project completion to prompt \nthe user to import source material to translate if that is *not* the \nright thing to do.\n\nThe instructions that load after you open OmegaT state:\n\n&quot;When you click OK to accept the project set-up, OmegaT will prompt you \nto select the source documents for import. You can import individual \nfiles, or you can import entire folder trees (with all files in all \nsubfolders).&quot;\n\nUser documents should be clear, precise, and say what they mean. They \nshould *never* assume that the end user has prior knowledge of the \nproduct or that they &quot;should just know&quot; what is the right next step. \nIt&#39;s no good after the fact to lecture me on using a function I don&#39;t \nunderstand (you&#39;re right, though - I don&#39;t understand why, from a \nusability perspective, this would be set up this way) when the documents \nthemselves tell you that this is the next step to follow after creating \na project.\n\nI detailed the steps of where the problem occured because I was asked to \n- I wasn&#39;t disregarding your last post. I read your post completely (but \nI managed not to misquote you - twice), including the part about the \ntokenizer.\n\nThe installation instructions for the tokenizer state (and I quote):\n\n&quot;Installation:\nUnzip the files, and put them all in the OmegaT directory. You can then \nedit the\nlaunching script (OmegaT-tokenizers.bat for Windows or OmegaT-tokenizers.sh\nfor Linux or Mac) to select your source language.&quot;\n\nThis does not work. There are no individual application folders on a \nMac, hence my question. If there were precise and comprehensive \ninstallation instructions for the tokenizer (appropriate for the version \nof OmegaT), I wouldn&#39;t have asked.\n\nWhen I joined this Yahoo group the initial mail I received stated \nseveral things:\n\nBe polite and treat others with dignity.\n\n*Perhaps you need to go back and read this*\n\nverify that you have read the tutorial that is displayed when OmegaT is launched\n\n*Which I have done and confirmed\n*\ntry to indicate the steps to reproduce your problem, what you expected to see, what you saw instead\n\n*Which I have done, so again, why are you being so aggressive and unpleasant? Marc asked for the steps of where I was having the problem, so I supplied them.\n*\nWhen you reply to a post:\n\n   � refrain from replying if your reply is not directly proposing a solution (&quot;Read the manual&quot; is not a direct solution)\n\n*Perhaps you should read this again, too. If you have the steps for installing and using the tokenizer, they should be in the zip for that plug-in or the manual. If they aren&#39;t, then I would appreciate you supplying them here. If you&#39;re not willing to do that, then please don&#39;t letcture me about waiting until I have attained some higher degree of gurudom.*\n\nI don&#39;t know why you have such a big chip on your shoulder, but if your \ndesire is not to help, but rather to irritate, I can&#39;t see why you \ncontribute.\n\nDidier Briel wrote:\n&gt; -----Original Message-----\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; From: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com [mailto:OmegaT@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt; bowjest\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 8:47 PM\n&gt;&gt; To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\n&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [OmT] Using OmegaT on a Mac\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; I&#39;ve started a project from scratch and here is what I have found\n&gt;&gt; (please bear in mind I&#39;m using a Mac):\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; It&#39;s not specifically relevant here (for the recursive inclusion issue).\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; 1. Open OmegaT\n&gt;&gt; 2. Selected Project -&gt; New\n&gt;&gt; 3. Set location of new project: Users/Bowjest/Interpreting/OmegaT\n&gt;&gt; 4. Named project My Project\n&gt;&gt; 5. Default paths accepted:\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; Source Files Folder: /Users/Bowjest/Interpreting/OmegaT/My Project/source/\n&gt;&gt; Translation Memory Folder: /Users/Bowjest/Interpreting/OmegaT/My\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt; Project/tm/\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Glossary Folder: /Users/Bowjest/Interpreting/OmegaT/My Project/glossary/\n&gt;&gt; Dictionary Folder: /Users/Bowjest/Interpreting/OmegaT/My\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt; Project/dictionary/\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Translated Files Folder: /Users/Bowjest/Interpreting/OmegaT/My\n&gt;&gt; Project/target/\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; 6. Created a new .odt doc with the following words:\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; Sehr geehrter Herr Schmidt,\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; ich bedanke mich f�r Ihre Schreiben.\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; Mit freundlichen Gr��en\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; 7. Saved .odt file to My Project /source directory\n&gt;&gt; 8. Go back to OmegaT and click Project -&gt; Import Source Files and select\n&gt;&gt; My Project\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; Oh my.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; It&#39;s at this point the the new sublayers are created.\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; Of course.\n&gt;\n&gt; What about the part of my previous message, where I wrote:\n&gt; &lt;&lt;you have used the import function pointing to the root\n&gt; of the project.&gt;&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; and\n&gt;\n&gt; &lt;&lt;*do not use the Import\n&gt; function* (until you are sure of what it does), and the problem will not\n&gt; happen.&gt;&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; (New emphasis added on &quot;do not use the Import function&quot;.)\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Please let me know if there is a difference between the &quot;Import source\n&gt;&gt; files&quot; option under &quot;Project&quot; and the &quot;Import source files&quot; option that\n&gt;&gt; appears in the window that opens when a new project is created. This\n&gt;&gt; seems to be the source of the duplication problem.\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; Why are you using &quot;Import source files&quot; in the first place?\n&gt;\n&gt; Using &quot;Import source files&quot; without knowing what it does is the source of\n&gt; the problem.\n&gt;\n&gt; Since the .odt file is already in &#39;My Project /source directory&#39;, why would\n&gt; you use &quot;Import source files&quot;?\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Didier - thanks for the tip about the tokenizer. I&#39;ve downloaded it and\n&gt;&gt; opened the zip, but am a bit confused about where it says to drop all\n&gt;&gt; the files in the OmegaT directory.\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; You should do one thing at a time.\n&gt;\n&gt; Until you&#39;re able to understand the basis of OmegaT and its operation\n&gt; (/source folder, TM use, etc.), I suggest you postpone installing the\n&gt; tokenizers.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; When I installed OmegaT, I opened the zip and then dropped the\n&gt;&gt; executable into the Applications directory (as you do on a Mac) and then\n&gt;&gt; deleted the folder that it was in. Is this the directory these files\n&gt;&gt; should be dropped into?\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; It depends on what version of OmegaT you are using.\n&gt; 2.0.5 and 2.1.1 require rather different ways of installing (and using) the\n&gt; tokenizers.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Also, I think you misunderstood the tone of my post. I never said this\n&gt;&gt; software was &quot;useless by definition&quot;. I said &quot;If the glossary can&#39;t\n&gt;&gt; handle any sort of pattern matching or wildcards, I can&#39;t see where its\n&gt;&gt; usefulness lies.&quot;\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; And then I gave you some example of usefulness.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Also, I did not say &quot;all languages are heavily inflected&quot; I said most\n&gt;&gt; languages are inflected - which is absolutely true. All the European\n&gt;&gt; languages I speak (with the exception of English) have grammatical\n&gt;&gt; inflection. Some more than others.\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; Which means the glossary is more or less easy to use, or is more or less\n&gt; useful.\n&gt;\n&gt; Didier\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; ------------------------------------\n&gt;\n&gt; The OmegaT Project Philosophy:\n&gt; http://www.omegat.org/en/philosophy.html\n&gt; The OmegaT Project and You:\n&gt; http://www.omegat.org/en/involved.html\n&gt;\n&gt; OmegaT contributors should join the &quot;omegat-development&quot; group\n&gt; OmegaT localizers should join the &quot;omegat-l10n&quot; group\n&gt; http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=68187\n&gt;\n&gt; IRC channel: http://java.freenode.net//index.php?channel=omegat\n&gt; or: irc://irc.freenode.net/omegat\n&gt; Bug reports, feature requests, OmegaT test versions etc...:\n&gt; http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/\n&gt;\n&gt; ------------------------------------\n&gt;\n&gt; Yahoo! Groups Links\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n\n"}}