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However, this may still turn out to be a mess because it will depend on which part of the source file you are translating (i.e., which one is going to be","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;tomaskovicde@yahoo.de&gt;\r\nX-Sender: tomaskovicde@yahoo.de\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 89916 invoked from network); 7 May 2008 07:57:53 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94)\n  by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2008 07:57:53 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO web26304.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (217.146.176.15)\n  by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2008 07:57:53 -0000\r\nX-Received: (qmail 88787 invoked by uid 60001); 7 May 2008 07:57:49 -0000\r\nX-YMail-OSG: nuA29RsVM1kdCbi8BOgcf5ovRm__HB03QP9hOUhIdfa8ic7DfkVejilpkXbekEezww--\r\nX-Received: from [84.56.142.171] by web26304.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 07 May 2008 07:57:49 GMT\r\nX-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.185\r\nDate: Wed, 7 May 2008 07:57:49 +0000 (GMT)\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;48215840.3080005@baldwinlinguas.com&gt;\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;608485.88768.qm@web26304.mail.ukl.yahoo.com&gt;\r\nX-Originating-IP: 217.146.176.15\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: &quot;S. Tomaskovic&quot; &lt;tomaskovicde@yahoo.de&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Partially translated uncleaned file\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=73897510; y=064Tdq55Q3WMEWYrajJgo1xqOj3VwNO3zQtbQclG5CSXGAj0IXmV\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: tomaskovicde\r\n\r\n\n\n\n&gt; But, I am doing it in OmegaT.\n&gt; It doesn&#39;t seem to be having any troub=\r\nle accepting my\n&gt; translations\n&gt; and creating a target document.\n&gt; This fil=\r\ne was sent to me as a .doc\n&gt;\nHowever, this may still turn out to be a mess =\r\nbecause it will depend on which part of the source file you are translating=\r\n (i.e., which one is going to be overwritten by OmT upon creation of the ta=\r\nrget document).\n\nThe reason why you can only see the translation (English p=\r\nart) in OOo is because the source segments are hidden. If you enable hidden=\r\n text in OOo, you should be able to see both. \n \n \n&gt; clean/unclean...I stil=\r\nl haven&#39;t the slightest idea what\n&gt; that&#39;s all about.\n&gt;\nOK, I&#39;ll try to exp=\r\nlain. Since this is a Trados-related term, it is quite difficult to grasp t=\r\nhe meaning without every having seen Trados. You may want to try Anaphraseu=\r\ns (a Wordfast clone for OOo, which uses the same method as Wordfast and Tra=\r\ndos (in previous versions) just for a better understanding of the concept (=\r\ngo to Sourceforge and type Anaphraseus). \n\nHave you ever seen an XLIFF file=\r\n? I think you mentioned Swordfish somewhere lately (have you tried it?), yo=\r\nu&#39;re probably aware that this is an XML-based file which contains source an=\r\nd target segments in one file. By definition, XLIFF files can contain trans=\r\nlations for more than one language, but let&#39;s assume you just have one targ=\r\net language. The resulting XLIFF file will therefore be bilingual.\n\nNow get=\r\n back to your Word document. It is bilinigual too. Instead of XML markers t=\r\nhat are used to separate source from target, Trados (and Wordfast) use curl=\r\ny braces ({}) to mark the beginning and end of a segment. Between source an=\r\nd target segment a number appears in parentheses which tells you how good t=\r\nhe match between source and target is. On top of that, Trados  puts curly b=\r\nraces, matching percentage and source text in hidden format and applies a s=\r\ntyle called tw4win. Once the translation is finished, Trados removes all ma=\r\nrkers (curly braces and matching percentage) and the source text from the f=\r\nile, leaving only the translation behind. The result is a clean file.\n\nThe =\r\nunclean file is the one which contains all markers plus source and target. =\r\nIt is (was) useful because target segments can be easily changed/corrected,=\r\n and it only requires another cleaning of the file to recreate the target d=\r\nocument. Of course you can do that in OmegaT too (or any other CAT tool), b=\r\nut it always requires you to have the software itself  , open it, apply the=\r\n changes and recreate your target file. Unclean files have the advantage th=\r\nat those who don&#39;t use CAT tools can still work on the files (but they need=\r\n to know what they are doing) and deliver them. Translation agencies then s=\r\nimply need to clean the file, they don&#39;t need to insert corrections or anyt=\r\nhing. At least, that is the theory.\n\nI suggest you really try Anaphraseus w=\r\nhen you have the time to. It will give you some insight into the world of u=\r\nnclean files.\n\nSonja\n\n\n      Lesen Sie Ihre E-Mails jetzt einfach von unter=\r\nwegs.\nwww.yahoo.de/go\n\n"}}