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Aah, thanks, now the penny drops.  The workflow you have in mind is source-files  OmegaT  universal-format  TMX  OmegaT  target-files. I had thought","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;leuce@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nX-Sender: leuce@absamail.co.za\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 33341 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2009 10:49:46 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46)\n  by m5.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2009 10:49:46 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO waveland.rdns.net) (74.200.252.232)\n  by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2009 10:49:46 -0000\r\nX-Received: from ip4da8c39b.direct-adsl.nl ([77.168.195.155]:56088 helo=[192.168.1.70])\n\tby waveland.rdns.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256)\n\t(Exim 4.69)\n\t(envelope-from &lt;leuce@absamail.co.za&gt;)\n\tid 1MoxVF-0002Fe-MZ\n\tfor OmegaT@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:49:18 -0500\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;4AB4B726.6060809@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nDate: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:49:10 +0200\r\nUser-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090812 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.6.0\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;8DBEF4FD-74D7-4D09-AB31-51873CF55468@gmail.com&gt; &lt;4AB488A8.6060905@absamail.co.za&gt; &lt;742A7538-3821-4D32-86AE-4A617C90B1CA@gmail.com&gt; &lt;4AB49B95.40004@absamail.co.za&gt; &lt;FC199FFA-E507-48BD-BF8B-05BAFA023B08@gmail.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;FC199FFA-E507-48BD-BF8B-05BAFA023B08@gmail.com&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\r\nX-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report\r\nX-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - waveland.rdns.net\r\nX-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - yahoogroups.com\r\nX-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]\r\nX-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - absamail.co.za\r\nX-Originating-IP: 74.200.252.232\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: &quot;Samuel Murray (Ugchelen)&quot; &lt;leuce@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Export function to XLIFF\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=176392694; y=VeiNpltnCpXmzvLBKb81_S4ZmaXVbAHWg42JPZF7EzRYLAp1Qg\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: lacialacia\r\n\r\nJean-Christophe Helary wrote:\n\n&gt; On 19 sept. 2009, at 17:51, Samuel Murray (Ugchelen) wrote:\n\n&gt;&gt; No-one said that OmegaT can make use of empty TMX and monolingual\n&gt;&gt; CSV files, but if I understand correctly, someone (you) did say\n&gt;&gt; that OmegaT can make use of XLIFF files.\n\n&gt; I don&#39;t think I wrote that. In any case not in the context of this \n&gt; thread.\n\nAah, thanks, now the penny drops.  The workflow you have in mind is\nsource-files &gt; OmegaT &gt; universal-format &gt; TMX &gt; OmegaT &gt; target-files.\n  I had thought that you meant source-files &gt; OmegaT &gt; universal-format &gt;\nOmegaT &gt; target-files.  Now I understand better what you mean.\n\n&gt; I am not talking about import function. Only about export. Because \n&gt; the discussion was about exporting source segments to TMX.\n\nYes, my apologies -- this misunderstanding was caused by the fact that I\ncould not see why exporting to XLIFF would be at all beneficial unless\nit somehow enabled translators or PMs to get translations back into\nOmegaT, and now I know that your idea is that TMX (not XLIFF) would be\nused as the &quot;importing&quot; format.\n\n&gt;&gt; CSV can be translated by any translator (not just those with XLIFF \n&gt;&gt; tools) and the resultant TMX file is directly usable by OmegaT \n&gt;&gt; again.\n\n&gt; Anything is translatable by anybody.\n\nMy argument stands or falls on my belief (which you disagree with) that\na TMX file created after translating a CSV file (that was converted or\nexported from an OmegaT project TMX) would allow for better retention of\nOmegaT formatting than a TMX created after translating an XLIFF export.\n\n&gt;&gt; Hold on... no, I don&#39;t think so.  A TMX created by another CAT tool\n&gt;&gt;  after translating an XLIFF that was created by OmegaT (presumably \n&gt;&gt; from its own TMX file, not from the original files) will not \n&gt;&gt; contain OmegaT&#39;s formatting tags.\n\n&gt; Why would that be ? The tags would be either encapsulated in the \n&gt; XLIFF, or not. If encapsulated, they are protected and the resulting \n&gt; TMX will have them encapsulated too.\n\nWell, I&#39;m no XLIFF expert, so I&#39;m afraid it is at this point where my\nline of thought must end.  My understanding of XLIFF says that you are\nnot correct, but I can&#39;t go further. :-)\n\nSamuel\n\n"}}