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Most probably, the majority of other people here are in a similar position. ... networking features could make OmegaT a mainstream","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nX-Sender: mail@marcprior.de\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 4583 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2008 09:35:19 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96)\n  by m51.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2008 09:35:19 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) (81.169.146.160)\n  by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2008 09:35:19 -0000\r\nX-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00\r\nX-RZG-AUTH: :IW0NeWCleu3NCLZrvwV6ORkX9kpsdepz7ym3QvLwqKG/CxzSJ1M8iFskLl6q01E=\r\nX-Received: from [192.168.0.106] (p5086E96B.dip.t-dialin.net [80.134.233.107])\n\tby post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo32) (RZmta 17.9)\n\twith ESMTP id V02ca3k929FWqV for &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;;\n\tThu, 2 Oct 2008 11:35:17 +0200 (MEST)\n\t(envelope-from: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;)\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;48E4961A.4010906@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nDate: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:36:26 +0200\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;118149.85373.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com&gt; &lt;gbvean+2pdp@eGroups.com&gt; &lt;37942439.20081001172548@gmx.net&gt; &lt;web-65549572@speedy.tutby.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;web-65549572@speedy.tutby.com&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\nX-Originating-IP: 81.169.146.160\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: Marc Prior &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Sharing TM with other translators using OmegaT\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12196177; y=8XHxc5GS18VK-xwzuBNH1H-YlUb2LE4L2VmU75UTKCjS9QQd\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: lin4trans\r\n\r\nDmitri Gabinski wrote:\n\n&gt; Martin, I personally have no interest at all beca=\r\nuse I&#39;m alone and have no \nplans to run an agency. Most probably, the major=\r\nity of other people here are \nin a similar position.\n\n&gt; This is not to say,=\r\n I thing that your idea has no value. Definitely, some \nnetworking features=\r\n could make OmegaT a mainstream player.\n\n&gt; I just deem other tasks more imp=\r\nortant (in particular, the glossary function \nNEEDS improvement). Well, if =\r\nwe had more developers=85\n\n\nDmitri,\n\nI would like to challenge this view.\n\n=\r\nOmegaT is a community effort. If each user were prepared to contribute only=\r\n in ways which were directly beneficial to him or her, OmegaT as we know it=\r\n would never have arisen. A great amount of work has already been done by p=\r\neople who did not benefit directly from what they did.\n\nI think that we wou=\r\nld all like to see faster progress being made with OmegaT&#39;s development. Th=\r\nat raises the question of how our existing developers, or new developers wh=\r\nom we could recruit, might be given more incentive to commit time to implem=\r\nenting the features we would like to see.\n\nAs I see it, there are three pos=\r\nsibilities.\n\na) We &quot;ordinary&quot; users (translators) learn to program ourselve=\r\ns, ideally in Java.\nb) We &quot;ordinary&quot; users (translators) work on other area=\r\ns of the project, such as documentation, localization, publicity, training,=\r\n user support, etc., in the hope that the resulting improvement in the over=\r\nall quality of the product and the enhanced visibility will make the projec=\r\nt attractive to a greater number of developers who may see advantages in it=\r\n for themselves (such as use for the localization of open-source projects, =\r\nor accessibility to new user groups - such as translation agencies) and who=\r\n might then be prepared to commit resources (developer time or funding of i=\r\nt) to the project.\nc) We &quot;ordinary&quot; users (translators) pay developers to i=\r\nmplement desired features.\nd) A combination of any of the above.\n\n\nWith reg=\r\nard to a), there have in fact been some contributions of code from &quot;ordinar=\r\ny&quot; users, but it is simply too time-consuming. If we rely on translators wh=\r\no can code, the development process is painfully slow.\n\nI would therefore l=\r\nike to encourage people to consider options b) and c).\n\nWith regard to b), =\r\nI think that this has in fact been successful. A great deal of work has bee=\r\nn done by non-developers, &quot;ordinary&quot; translators, who have written document=\r\nation, translated it, provided user support, tested new code, given present=\r\nations, etc. etc. This work has made OmegaT accessible to a very broad base=\r\n of mainstream users, and that broad base has in turn either produced or at=\r\ntracted development expertise. Whether that development expertise and the r=\r\nesulting, existing pace of development is &quot;enough&quot; is a matter of personal =\r\nopinion. Whether it is enough or not, though, in my view there is a *huge* =\r\namount of work that non-developers, &quot;ordinary&quot; translators, could be doing =\r\nin the project. In the areas of administration, documentation and translati=\r\non - all skills that can be found amongst ordinary translators - the projec=\r\nt has major deficits. Some people give the impression that the obstacle to =\r\nOmegaT&#39;s progress is the development &quot;bottleneck&quot;, but this is not true. Ou=\r\nr documentation team has its work cut out to keep up with new developments =\r\nin the program, and the localization effort is lagging a loooong way behind=\r\n.\n\nWith regard to c), if there are functions that we think NEED improvement=\r\n (your capitals), would we (I mean &quot;we&quot; as individual users) be prepared to=\r\n pay a developer to implement them? I will say that I am quite prepared to =\r\npay for particular features to be added. I know that this is controversial.=\r\n I know that many users have contributed back to the project in a great man=\r\ny ways, and I am not suggesting that their contribution is in any way less =\r\nvaluable than the work done by the developers. What I am saying is that the=\r\n users who think that a particular feature is absolutely essential are the =\r\nones who benefit most from it, so perhaps they should consider paying for i=\r\nts implementation. I am particularly thinking of new users who appear, with=\r\n increasing frequency, on this list, point out some deficiency of the progr=\r\nam that to them makes the difference between its being usable or not, and s=\r\neem to expect immediate implementation and even gratitude for their &quot;insigh=\r\nt&quot;.\n\nThis is not a personal criticism of you, Dmitri: the opposite, in fact=\r\n, because you are one of the people who has contributed to OmegaT in a numb=\r\ner of ways over many years. However, a lot of the work on OmegaT is typical=\r\nly done by the same people: JC (in particular), you, Vito, Samuel, etc. A l=\r\not of the work that is done by these &quot;usual suspects&quot; could be done by a fa=\r\nr higher number of people. For that to be possible, though, we need to disp=\r\nel this idea that the OmegaT project is divided into &quot;users&quot; and &quot;developer=\r\ns&quot;, and that the task of the latter is to fulfil the wishes of the former.\n=\r\n\nOK, I&#39;m ready for the flak. :-)\n\nMarc\n\n\n\n\n\n"}}