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That s kind of what my understanding of those files was. Glad to see I m not too far out of orbit. ... I kind of understood that, too...sort of. Like, a PO","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;anthony@baldwinlinguas.com&gt;\r\nX-Sender: anthony@baldwinlinguas.com\r\nX-Apparently-To: omegat@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 75136 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2008 12:41:14 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96)\n  by m54.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2008 12:41:14 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.24)\n  by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2008 12:41:14 -0000\r\nX-Received: from OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43])\n\tby QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast\n\tid 1nLW1a0050vp7WLA2ohET8; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:41:14 +0000\r\nX-Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([71.233.156.193])\n\tby OMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast\n\tid 1ohC1a00W4AeMgP8RohDnP; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:41:13 +0000\r\nX-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=04qJGA0nInkA:10 a=C8qyOa2IcW4A:10\n a=o8meOYmdAAAA:8 a=jLfpXq6zAAAA:8 a=hoKdFVL9AAAA:8 a=tRPY86rS-GbyaYyemOoA:9\n a=FiWJy5EAwFP9KJh-mAYA:7 a=6ZooslYIIROY9GODDS6jrbOzfuEA:4 a=RMBU5szJeCoA:10\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;48A2D667.2050601@baldwinlinguas.com&gt;\r\nDate: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:41:11 -0400\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;48A25CC2.3090107@baldwinlinguas.com&gt; &lt;5B09691D-01EC-4D57-A908-3BBCC50C8D2B@mx6.tiki.ne.jp&gt; &lt;48A2D080.3040907@baldwinlinguas.com&gt; &lt;48A2D424.9050400@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;48A2D424.9050400@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\r\nX-Originating-IP: 76.96.30.24\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: anthony baldwin &lt;anthony@baldwinlinguas.com&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] localization conference wants to hear about OmegaT\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=261302706; y=GxyOaHu1UUDicFPcOzvrfLsF2uULPhjtEdGVCdLCqn8yOkQgZ48\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: photodharma\r\n\r\nSamuel Murray (Home) wrote:\n&gt; anthony baldwin wrote:\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; I still question that...I mean, whether I have enough knowledge and \n&gt;&gt; experience.  I&#39;m primarily a legal (contracts/patents) translator.\n&gt; \n&gt; Then say so.  Honest is the best policy.\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; Unless I&#39;m wrong, I understand that the properties file\n&gt;&gt; is kind of like the po file of the java world, and, OmegaT\n&gt;&gt; works with them flawlessly...no?)\n&gt; \n&gt; Java properties files are the language files used by software to display \n&gt; itself in other languages.  Properties files are monolingual, and the \n&gt; actual properties file is often used in the software.\n&gt; \n&gt; PO files are bilingual files, and they are usually compiled into MO \n&gt; files before a program uses it to display itself in another language \n&gt; (although nothing stops a program from supporting PO directly).\n\nThat&#39;s kind of what my understanding of those files was.\nGlad to see I&#39;m not too far out of orbit.\n\n&gt; \n&gt; OmegaT translates by overwriting.  This is why properties files can be \n&gt; handled directly (the final file is monolingual) but PO files need a \n&gt; little preparation.  A PO file is actually a kind of TM.\n\nI kind of understood that, too...sort of.\nLike, a PO is a TM compiled in the program, often not just bilingual, \nbut multilingual, iirc, and the user chooses through the interface, or,\nwhile installing/compiling the program, which of the languages in said\nPO file are displayed in the interface...\nRight?\nAre those used in proprietary software, too?\n\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; I have never worked with java (or java.properties) or po files, and, my \n&gt;&gt; experience with xliff is quite limited.\n&gt; \n&gt; In that case, mention XLIFF but don&#39;t go into too many details. \n&gt; OmegaT&#39;s support for XLIFF is very, very basic, and the translator needs \n&gt; a fair bit of technical expertise.  And OmegaT supports only the \n&gt; translation of XLIFF files that have never been translated before.\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; (As far as what the l10n industry is&quot;Lionbridge and folks like that will \n&gt;&gt; be there...companies that provide commercial software localization, \n&gt;&gt; which I know nothing about.\n&gt; \n&gt; So, consider yourself an outlier.  Your aim is not to show how OmegaT \n&gt; can do all these things that other tools can do, but to show what it can \n&gt; be used for.  Focus on the usual features of OmegaT, and mention in \n&gt; passing that OmegaT can also translate certain l10n formats.\n\nThat makes sense.\nI&#39;m certainly capable to expounding broadly on what OmegaT\ncan do in terms of general translation, and why I believe it is the best \ntool for the job for MY business.\nAnd then mention that it handles some l01n formats.\n\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; Wait..this is .NET M$ stuff...I&#39;m not even going there.\n&gt;&gt; I don&#39;t even use stuff with wine here.\n&gt;&gt; Like I said, I&#39;m a FOSS fanatic.\n&gt; \n&gt; AFAIK Mono is FLOSS.\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; I think the only real non-free thing on my machine, now, is\n&gt;&gt; the flash-plugin.\n&gt; \n&gt; And you&#39;ve had Java on your machine long before it was FLOSSed.\n\nWell...I also had Adobe Reader.\nI was SO happy when Sun flossed java.\n\n\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; And my comprehension of the distinction between level 1, level 2 and\n&gt;&gt; omegat.tmx can be summed up in:\n&gt;&gt; keep the omegat.tmx for use with omegat projects.\n&gt;&gt; send the client the level1.tmx\n&gt;&gt; Why&quot; I don&#39;t know...\n&gt; \n&gt; Your knowledge of OmegaT is somewhat similar to what many Trados users \n&gt; have of Trados, etc.  You are a skilled user but you&#39;re not a guru.\n\n\n\nJust off hand, I have to say that I&#39;m astounded at how little many \npeople in the industry understand about file formats and stuff.\n\nI sent one of my favorite freelancers a tmx file this week for a huge \nproject (student handbook, updated from last year&#39;s version, in which\n85% of the file is the same as last year&#39;s so she only needed to \ntranslate 15% of the file), and she was lost.\nShe asked me for a ttx. (doh)\nI sent her instructions on how to import the tmx to Trados.\nI love working with this lady, ave been for nearly 3 years, and she does \ngreat work, and quick, but, I&#39;m seriously beginning to consider\ngiving preference to providers working with OmegaT, and who know how to\nconvert and/or import various file types.\n\n/tony\n\n&gt; \n&gt; Samuel\n&gt; \n-- \nAnthony Baldwin\n\nhttp://www.BaldwinLinguas.com\nTranslation & Interpreting\n\nhttp://www.TransProCalc.org\nFree translation project mgmt software\n\nhttp://www.LinguasOS.org\nLinux for Translators\n\n\n"}}