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Trados full-time from 1997 to 1999; OmegaT full-time since 2002. However, the Trados version I used in the last millennium,","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nX-Sender: mail@marcprior.de\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 85459 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:55:51 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94)\n  by m36.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Dec 2007 21:55:51 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) (81.169.146.160)\n  by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:55:51 -0000\r\nX-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00\r\nX-RZG-AUTH: j/gCopV6GBybdkZQTO25IIyQPe2s21uI6Wyjpg3EdMA6kaEd5M7dspxSv1wI\r\nX-Received: from [192.168.0.106] (p5086EEAD.dip.t-dialin.net [80.134.238.173])\n\tby post.webmailer.de (fruni mo43) (RZmta 14.6)\n\twith ESMTP id Q036dejBDLaM2s for &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;;\n\tThu, 13 Dec 2007 22:55:49 +0100 (MET)\n\t(envelope-from: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;)\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;4761A8CB.80809@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nDate: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:48:59 +0100\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;fjroqg+7tqi@eGroups.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;fjroqg+7tqi@eGroups.com&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\r\nX-Originating-IP: 81.169.146.160\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: Marc Prior &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] evaluation of OmegaT\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12196177; y=1ax_JcUOqKC1U69W3Hrsgor0TbME1hmZNEEjRxmYbCapkhrN\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: lin4trans\r\n\r\nI have used both Trados and OmegaT. Trados full-time from 1997 to 1999; \nOmegaT full-time since 2002.\n\nHowever, the Trados version I used in the last millennium, which was the \ncurrent version at that time, probably has little in common with the \ncurrent version, so my comparison is still probably based more on \nanecdotal knowledge of Trados.\n\nAdvantages of OmegaT:\n\n* It runs on Linux. That rules Trados out altogether. I could run it on \nan emulator, of course, but I feel that more or less defeats the object \nof using Linux. (I&#39;m prepared to use Crossover Office, but not a &quot;true&quot; \nemulator.)\n\n* It supports a flexible upgrade path. The price is bound to get a \nmention, but to me it isn&#39;t really about money. I paid around 2,000 \neuros (4,000 Deutschmarks) in 1997 for Trados, which had only a fraction \nof the functionality of today&#39;s version, but I would still be prepared \nto pay that kind of money for the right product. Trados now costs only \n700 euros or so. The problem with Trados is that you don&#39;t simply pay \nand then use the product. You pay... and keep on paying. You have to \nkeep buying upgrades in order to stay compatible. That was, in fact, \nwhat really put me off Trados: eight months after paying 4,000 euros for \nit, I was invited to spend another 2,000 euros just to gain \ncompatibility with Word &#39;97 (the version I bought worked with Word 6). \nThen you have to have the right version of Microsoft Office, and either \nTrados, or Office, or both, dictate what version of Windows you have. So \nstaying up to date with Trados involves regular upgrades of your office \nsuite and operating system which altogether are expensive, \ntime-consuming, and add to the learning overhead.\n\nWith OmegaT on Linux, I will also want to upgrade OmegaT, and also the \nJava Runtime Environment, OpenOffice.org, and my Linux installation \ngenerally from time to time. But these applications aren&#39;t anything like \nas choosy about what versions of each other they work with. OmegaT is \nlike a 1987 Mercedes Diesel: it runs on almost anything, including used \nfrying fat. And it&#39;s available wherever there&#39;s an Internet connection.\n\n* It&#39;s stable and robust. On my Linux installation, it never crashes, \never. The display does lock up very occasionally: it only seems to \nhappen with large projects, generally after I have left it unattended \nfor a while, and everything except possibly the active segment is saved, \nso it isn&#39;t critical; I just kill it, reload and pick up where I left \noff. Trados certainly wasn&#39;t that stable; whether it is now, I don&#39;t know.\n\n* It doesn&#39;t mess up the formatting. Some people might be surprised to \nhear this, but it - OmegaT - doesn&#39;t. What does mess up formatting at \ntimes is the conversion from MS Office to OOo and back, which is \nnecessary in order for OmegaT to handle MS Office files. But judging \nfrom the Trados help fora, Trados seems to have a real penchant for \nmessing up formatting. If I&#39;m going to have to correct formatting, I&#39;d \nrather have the problem in a separate stage, in my office suite, and not \nhave to worry about it whilst I&#39;m translating.\n\n* It handles projects with multiple source files and multiple \ntranslation memories very nicely. At one time, Trados couldn&#39;t do \neither, at all; that may now have changed, though I get the impression \nfrom the user lists that the Trados philosophy of forcing everything \nthrough RTF still causes problems. This is just a subjective impression, \nthough.\n\n* Documentation and user support are fantastic. My knowledge of the \ncurrent Trados situation is only anecdotal, but I don&#39;t have the same \nimpression.\n\n* It doesn&#39;t have a fuzzy match statistics function and it&#39;s unpopular \nwith bucket-shop agencies, so you don&#39;t find yourself working for \npeanuts just because you happen to own it.\n\nAdvantages of Trados:\n\n* Everyone uses it, so if anything goes wrong, you can always blame it \non Trados.\n\n* One big advantage of Trados used to be that it used Word as an editing \nenvironment. This had two advantages, in fact: firstly, it was familiar \nto most people, so the learning curve was shallow; secondly, Word is a \nfully-featured word processor, and you get the full functionality thrown \nin when using it with Trados. Features like Autocorrect, for example, or \nsimply the ability to change formatting on the fly. Conversely, OmegaT&#39;s \nediting interface is very primitive; you can&#39;t even drag & drop text, \nthere&#39;s no global search and replace function, and it still doesn&#39;t have \nan integral spelling checker.\n\nHowever, all this may now have changed. Trados is moving away from the \nWord interface and I understand Tag Editor is now the officially \npreferred interface even for Word files. In terms of functionality and \nuser-friendliness, I gather Tag Editor is a major step backwards from \nthe Word interface, but how it compares with OmegaT, I honestly don&#39;t know.\n\n* Trados supports more file formats. In particular, Trados may well be \nunrivalled among CAT tools for the formats it supports, particularly DTP \nformats.\n\nThe jury&#39;s out:\n\n* The open-source bonus. In theory, you can make whatever change you \nlike to OmegaT. In practice, if you&#39;re a mere mortal translator who \ncan&#39;t program in Java, that isn&#39;t much help to you. But at the very \nleast, it&#39;s reassuring that OmegaT won&#39;t disappear overnight like \nCypresoft did. The community simply won&#39;t allow that to happen.\n\n* Performance. I&#39;d be interested to know how the two really compare in \nterms of speed. It&#39;s nice to think that Windows Vista, in particular, is \na massive resource hog and any self-respecting current Linux \ndistribution should beat it hands down on speed on identical hardware; \nalso, that I spend next to nothing on software and therefore \ntheoretically have more money available for faster hardware. So on that \nbasis, OmegaT is faster for two quite different reasons. But when run on \nan identical Windows system, I don&#39;t honestly know how Trados and OmegaT \nstack up.\n\nTo summarize: what is perhaps relevant is what I, as an OmegaT user, \nenvy Trados for. And that is:\n\n* A better editing environment - but not at the price of having to use \nMS Word or any other word processor. And as already said, I don&#39;t know \njust how good Tag Editor is, and I&#39;ve been quite surprised at some of \nthe negative comments I&#39;ve heard about it.\n\n* Support for more file formats.\n\nThat&#39;s about it, really. Compatibility is assumed to be the big one, but \nI think it&#39;s overrated and that what passes for &quot;compatibility&quot; often \nhas more do with making bad formatting &quot;look right&quot; rather than with \npreserving good formatting. The future is going to be XML in one form or \nother, and I think OmegaT&#39;s prospects are good.\n\nAnd why would I be most reluctant to give up OmegaT:\n\n* It&#39;s logical, and I understand how it works. I&#39;m not typical, because \nI&#39;ve been involved in its development for longer than probably any other \nuser, but I still think that it&#39;s a very simple, intelligent, logical \npiece of software design (although at times, it&#39;s too logical - the \nautopropagation facility, for instance, doesn&#39;t make sufficient \nallowance for the illogicality of language). But at least I understand \nwhat it does, and why. OmegaT and Trados are typical examples of FOSS \nand Windows software respectively: OmegaT is a tool that gets the job \ndone, and if it doesn&#39;t quite do it, you use it differently, or use a \ncouple of other small tools as aids, and if you know a little scripting \nyou can go a long way. Trados, by contrast, is your typical all-singing, \nall-dancing Windows application with fancy buttons and toolbars, but \nlike all such applications, you don&#39;t really know what it&#39;s doing, or \nwhy. We&#39;re back to the car analogy again: OmegaT is your &#39;87 Benz \ndiesel, and with a bag full of simple hand tools, you can fix most \nproblems yourself. I wouldn&#39;t want to break down in the desert with Trados.\n\nMarc\n\n"}}