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Yes, that s why I put quoting in quotation marks... However, the analogy with spork is very good, it will definitely go in! ... translator per model is a","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;toniasantoro@yahoo.it&gt;\r\nX-Sender: toniasantoro@yahoo.it\r\nX-Apparently-To: omegat@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 61479 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2010 11:59:22 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.44)\n  by m3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jul 2010 11:59:22 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO n20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com) (87.248.110.137)\n  by mta1.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2010 11:59:21 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [217.146.182.179] by n20.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2010 11:59:20 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [87.248.110.118] by t5.bullet.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2010 11:59:20 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp223.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2010 11:59:20 -0000\r\nX-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3\r\nX-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 671739.59885.bm@omp223.mail.ukl.yahoo.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 20009 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2010 11:59:20 -0000\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;490745.19790.qm@web25605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com&gt;\r\nX-YMail-OSG: n8iKPCcVM1kSNu83By1o2YpD6hsSUBTUuUvP3A0oClKveqF\n bOuRoMNz2YOKF4aZcA64WBADDJvxPAHIdLA_qDfUXmd05JYmjsw91Dtt2Uys\n w9KlUAKM0ZX8ymgZ79WlkxFm4t69rVNTbtzdVaobImtW_.hRtdplCSREc8gs\n O9OD5We7LY7uFRynB1mzlUSqPOrYPz_Pvt0SsuLZ.ABICYkPrZcfWkuz5rcu\n T_87A6EA4Ks.UdID30XPsuk34p5zT8WyKGCRVlqNKO5K_BQ8ZUflYx2_Nkex\n H_v3cNJ_UtSuZamy_orIEJf4wJ2.cnS7He2._7ZU-\r\nX-Received: from [79.66.13.75] by web25605.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:59:20 GMT\r\nX-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.2.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.276605\r\nDate: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:59:20 +0000 (GMT)\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;4C384F14.4010603@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nX-Originating-IP: 87.248.110.137\r\nFrom: Tonia Santoro &lt;toniasantoro@yahoo.it&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Dissertation on FOSS and OmegaT for translation purposes\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=452781731; y=0sVn6hN1zJPkB3wrwdh8IOAcYW8ZgJ1TbyJwS4e6gGhMbGsAzNud\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: toniasantoro\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\n\r\n&gt; Instead of quoting, why not just rewrite it in your own words?\n\nYes, that=\r\n&#39;s why I put &quot;quoting&quot; in quotation marks... However, the analogy with spor=\r\nk is very good, it will definitely go in!\n\n&gt; You&#39;re forgetting something: l=\r\nearning curve.  And using just one \n\ntranslator per model is a bit risky.  =\r\nYou&#39;d get better results if you \n\nused 1000 translators per model, because =\r\ndifferent people find different\n \n\nthings cumbersome or easy to do.\n\nI wish=\r\n I had the time and the means to perform such accurate study. Unfortunately=\r\n, I took on something pretty big for a Master&#39;s dissertation (some lecturer=\r\ns already advised that it could have been a PhD proposal) and I will probab=\r\nly only be able to set up an experiment which consider only an &quot;ideal worki=\r\nng situation&quot;.\n\n--- Sab 10/7/10, Samuel Murray (Durbanville) &lt;leuce@absamai=\r\nl.co.za&gt; ha scritto:\n\nDa: Samuel Murray (Durbanville) &lt;leuce@absamail.co.za=\r\n&gt;\nOggetto: Re: [OmT] Dissertation on FOSS and OmegaT for translation purpos=\r\nes\nA: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\nData: Sabato 10 luglio 2010, 12:44\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n=C2=\r\n=A0\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n    \n      \n      \n      Tonia Santoro wrote:\n\n\n\n&gt; Samuel wrote=\r\n:\n\n\n\n&gt;&gt; So if the translator can find himself a PDF2DOC converter that can\n=\r\n\n&gt;&gt; do the job, then he should use that instead of Trados&#39; own PDF\n\n&gt;&gt; conv=\r\nerter.\n\n\n\n&gt; Don&#39;t you think a pdf converter will be prone to misalignment t=\r\noo?\n\n\n\nOf course.  My point is that what Trados does is nothing fancy.  It =\r\nis \n\nsimply an integrated PDF converter.  And... third-party PDF converters=\r\n \n\nare likely to have more flexibility for the translator (because the \n\nen=\r\ntire program is dedicated to that one function: converting the PDF).\n\n\n\n&gt; I=\r\n&#39;m getting very useful insights I will be &quot;quoting&quot; in my work if\n\n&gt; you do=\r\nn&#39;t mind. Of course, I will acknowledge your names.\n\n\n\nInstead of quoting, =\r\nwhy not just rewrite it in your own words?  That way \n\nthere is no chance o=\r\nf misunderstanding what an author said because the \n\nreader of your dissert=\r\nation has no access to the context of that which \n\nwas said. :-)\n\n\n\n&gt; It&#39;s =\r\nnot that I want OmegaT to have a pdf converter AND a preview\n\n&gt; function AN=\r\nD all the other points I mentioned in my initial email to\n\n&gt; you, I was act=\r\nually considering them as some of the functions that\n\n&gt; enhance the transla=\r\ntor&#39;s productivity.\n\n\n\nI suspect productivity can be improved by putting al=\r\nl the tools into a \n\nsingle program.  But only to a point.  Some functions =\r\nare so complex \n\nthat the translator&#39;s productivity may actually be increas=\r\ne if he uses \n\nseparate programs, with each program dedicated to a single p=\r\nurpose.\n\n\n\nHave you heard of a spork?  It is a spoon and a fork in one.  Th=\r\ne idea \n\nis that you don&#39;t have to carry both a spoon and a fork, so it&#39;s b=\r\netter \n\nfor hikers and outdoor people.  But if you&#39;ve ever used a spork you=\r\n \n\nwould know that it is actually more cumbersome to use it than using two =\r\n\n\nseparate tools that are separately better at the job than the one too.\n\n\n=\r\n\n&gt; Two different translators will be asked to translate a piece\n\n&gt; of text =\r\non both the FOSS PC and another PC with Windows and Trados\n\n&gt; 2009. The aim=\r\n is to check whether their productivity will be the\n\n&gt; same.\n\n\n\nYou&#39;re forg=\r\netting something: learning curve.  And using just one \n\ntranslator per mode=\r\nl is a bit risky.  You&#39;d get better results if you \n\nused 1000 translators =\r\nper model, because different people find different \n\nthings cumbersome or e=\r\nasy to do.\n\n\n\nAlso, productivity implies an existing process.  You can only=\r\n measure \n\nincrease in productivity if there is already productivity.\n\n\n\nAl=\r\nso, the big enemies of productivity is not using processes that take a \n\nlo=\r\nng time to perform, but having to fix problems that occur when the \n\nproces=\r\ns is unable to deal with a non-ideal situation.\n\n\n\nSamuel\n\n\n\n    \n     \n\n  =\r\n  \n    \n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n\n\n\n      \n\n[Non-text portions of this message have bee=\r\nn removed]\n\n\n"}}