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This is no particular criticism","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nX-Sender: mail@marcprior.de\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 6221 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2008 09:08:09 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97)\n  by m43.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Mar 2008 09:08:09 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) (81.169.146.161)\n  by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2008 09:08:09 -0000\r\nX-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00\r\nX-RZG-AUTH: j/gCopV6GBybdkZQTO25IIyQPe2s21uI6Wyjpg3EdMA6kaEd5M7ah3rAefY=\r\nX-Received: from [192.168.0.106] (p5086F33D.dip.t-dialin.net [80.134.243.61])\n\tby post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo20) (RZmta 16.8)\n\twith ESMTP id z03f5ak2A854qv for &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;;\n\tMon, 10 Mar 2008 10:08:05 +0100 (MET)\n\t(envelope-from: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;)\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;47D4FAFA.3020109@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nDate: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:10:18 +0100\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20071031)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;440722.20466.qm@web26301.mail.ukl.yahoo.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;440722.20466.qm@web26301.mail.ukl.yahoo.com&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\r\nX-Originating-IP: 81.169.146.161\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: Marc Prior &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] character count\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12196177; y=7NYNPJMJ6XbBa-w08hxfg-bM-Z7vHCuAPfaf0CBfffG_VjZg\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: lin4trans\r\n\r\nI agree with Sonja: I wouldn&#39;t trust OmegaT&#39;s count statistics for \nbilling, at least not without some additional verification. This is no \nparticular criticism of OmegaT; I wouldn&#39;t touch Trados&#39; stats with a \nbargepole, either.\n\nThe stats function is useful for rough quantification or as a measure of \nprogress.\n\nThe best count methods are those that produce a plain-text file, because \nif necessary you can send it to your customer and say &quot;this is what I \ntranslated and what I&#39;m charging you for&quot;.\n\nMarc\n\n\nS. Tomaskovic schrieb:\n&gt; Hello JC,\n&gt; \n&gt; I&#39;ve never relied on OmegaT&#39;s word count and can&#39;t\n&gt; really comment on what OmT actually counts.\n&gt; \n&gt; Experience taught me that it is usually best to\n&gt; convert   Word documents to plain text, and then do a\n&gt; word count. I either use wc on Linux or I open the\n&gt; file in gedit. In most cases, OmT&#39;s word count (on the\n&gt; text file) is very close to the ones obtained through\n&gt; these methods.\n&gt; \n&gt; HTH.\n&gt; \n&gt; Sonja\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; --- Jean-Christophe Helary &lt;fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp&gt;\n&gt; schrieb:\n&gt; \n&gt;&gt; I have a huge discrepancy over a given file set.\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; OmegaT gives me about 45,000 chars when all the\n&gt;&gt; other tools I use  \n&gt;&gt; (Word, OpenOffice, WordServices) give me about\n&gt;&gt; 36,000 chars.\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; I have stripped the ODT file clean of all the XML\n&gt;&gt; tags present in all  \n&gt;&gt; its components and I seem to get a figure that is\n&gt;&gt; very close to the  \n&gt;&gt; OOo one.\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; The question is, what does OmegaT count as a\n&gt;&gt; character ?\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; The original files were created in Windows so there\n&gt;&gt; may be line breaks  \n&gt;&gt; that are different from Mac. Would OmegaT count that\n&gt;&gt; as characters ?  \n&gt;&gt; In tests I&#39;ve done OmegaT does not seem to count\n&gt;&gt; line breaks in files  \n&gt;&gt; created here.\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; I can&#39;t really make a quote based on OmegaT&#39;s count\n&gt;&gt; since _all_ the  \n&gt;&gt; other tools are unanimous regarding the current\n&gt;&gt; files...\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; Jean-Christophe Helary\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt; ------------------------------------\n&gt;&gt; http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n&gt;&gt; IRC channel: irc://irc.freenode.net/omegat\n&gt;&gt; For bug reports, feature requests, OmegaT test\n&gt;&gt; versions etc...\n&gt;&gt; Go to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/\n&gt;&gt; To localize OmegaT to your language, or proofread\n&gt;&gt; existing translations,\n&gt;&gt; read:\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt; http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat_en/translation-info.html\n&gt;&gt; If OmegaT makes you richer than you need, check the\n&gt;&gt; Pine Ridge Reservation&#39;s\n&gt;&gt; charities for a donation:\n&gt;&gt; http://www.friendsofpineridgereservation.org/\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n&gt;&gt;  \n&gt;&gt; Yahoo! Groups Links\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt;&gt;\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt;       Machen Sie Yahoo! zu Ihrer Startseite. Los geht&#39;s: \n&gt; http://de.yahoo.com/set\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n&gt; IRC channel: irc://irc.freenode.net/omegat\n&gt; For bug reports, feature requests, OmegaT test versions etc...\n&gt; Go to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/\n&gt; To localize OmegaT to your language, or proofread existing translations,\n&gt; read: http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat_en/translation-info.html\n&gt; If OmegaT makes you richer than you need, check the Pine Ridge Reservation&#39;s\n&gt; charities for a donation: http://www.friendsofpineridgereservation.org/\n&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n&gt;  \n&gt; Yahoo! Groups Links\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n\n\n"}}