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Sorry Samuel but that is dumb. If you compare the broad functions available in both OmegaT and OmegaT+ then you must compare OmegaT 1.6 to OmegaT+","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp&gt;\r\nX-Sender: fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 56609 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2009 15:42:03 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.97)\n  by m1.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Feb 2009 15:42:03 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO smtp10.tiki.ne.jp) (218.40.30.107)\n  by mta18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2009 15:42:03 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [192.168.11.6] (pl395.nas932.takamatsu.nttpc.ne.jp [210.136.181.139])\n\t(authenticated bits=0)\n\tby smtp10.tiki.ne.jp (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1PFg0J7037833\n\t(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO)\n\tfor &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;; Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:42:01 +0900 (JST)\n\t(envelope-from fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp)\r\nMessage-Id: &lt;8B24664C-6848-41A6-80C0-4B846D1D7F29@mx6.tiki.ne.jp&gt;\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;49A55937.7050405@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\nMime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3)\r\nDate: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:42:00 +0900\r\nReferences: &lt;D5C93656-7BD1-4371-AC53-8EACC407ACC9@btinternet.com&gt; &lt;49A53AE5.4040201@absamail.co.za&gt; &lt;D5DE37A6-9219-4685-B3F6-641C9AA5CFC3@mx6.tiki.ne.jp&gt; &lt;49A55937.7050405@absamail.co.za&gt;\r\nX-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3)\r\nX-Originating-IP: 218.40.30.107\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:3:4:0:0\r\nFrom: Jean-Christophe Helary &lt;fusion@mx6.tiki.ne.jp&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Re: OmT vs OmT+: Project information display\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=229380146; y=1qG1OvYqNG7J5YChvexitc74YfHJwi1cRpbrCbekqiJwiYl97w\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: jc_helary\r\n\r\n\nOn mercredi 25 f=E9vr. 09, at 23:44, Samuel Murray (Apeldoorn) wrote:\n\n&gt; S=\r\no for a user that uses only the broad functions available in both OmT\n&gt; and=\r\n OmT+, what will swing the vote will be the little things.\n\nSorry Samuel bu=\r\nt that is dumb. If you compare the &quot;broad functions  \navailable in both Ome=\r\ngaT and OmegaT+&quot; then you must compare OmegaT 1.6  \nto OmegaT+ milestone 2.=\r\n\n\nThen you have pretty much feature/code parity and you can say  \nconstruct=\r\nive things about how the little things feel, comparatively.\n\nThere are plen=\r\nty of little things that are not in the menus, in the  \nsettings or in the =\r\nvisuals of the application. And it is only by  \nreally working with the app=\r\nlications that you&#39;ll feel them. Not by  \nmaking listings of visible differ=\r\nences.\n\nI think that is exactly what Mike means.\n\nAnd I say, if you use a C=\r\nAT tool for TM leverage (which is pretty much  \nthe only purpose of the sof=\r\ntware category) then you&#39;ll feel that a lot  \nof the little differences you=\r\n described are irrelevant because they  \nare only style decision (in either=\r\n case) and do not significantly  \naffect the workflow in general.\n\n\nWhat I =\r\nthink would be constructive is that you take one real life job  \ndata set (=\r\nlike OpenOffice.org 3.1 PO files, with the whole TMX and  \nglossary sets pr=\r\novided by SUN) and do a real survey of how it feels to  \nwork that set with=\r\n OmegaT 1.6, OmegaT+ milestone 2 and OmegaT 2.0.\n\n\nOne can say that spellch=\r\necking is sugar coating. But for a translator  \nwho works with OmegaT, havi=\r\nng to spellcheck outside the application  \n(because in the end you _have_ t=\r\no spellcheck your document, if that is  \nrelevant in your target language) =\r\nis a major pain in the butt  \nespecially when the TM must be later updated =\r\nso that it is properly  \n_leveraged_ later in the process.\n\nSimilarly, even=\r\n with 1.8 I was constantly worried about how much stuff  \nI was putting in =\r\n/source/ in /tm/ and in /glossary/ and how much  \nmemory I was assigning to=\r\n Java. In 2.0 that worry has gone. Forever. I  \ncan puts tons of glossary a=\r\nnd TM files and thousands of segments in  \nsource and I can work _right fro=\r\nm the beginning_ without having to  \nwait for the whole thing to be indexed=\r\n so that I can properly leverage  \nmy TM set... I am not even talking about=\r\n the 2.0 lucene plugin, which  \nis another totally new way to leverage TMs =\r\nand glossaries.\n\nMost of the core developments that take place in OmegaT re=\r\nvolve around  \nTM leveraging and file handling because the workflow has pre=\r\ntty much  \nbeen fixed. Comparatively, most of the developments that take pl=\r\nace in  \nOmegaT+ revolve around making old stuff look nice _and_ different =\r\nfrom  \nOmegaT. And that is considering that (supposedly) both code bases ar=\r\ne  \nbeing pretty much fully refactored for further developments.\n\nI have li=\r\nttle doubts that OmegaT+ will ever reach feature parity with  \nthe _current=\r\n_ OmegaT code, but I sincerely would not mind being proved  \nwrong. Still, =\r\nuntil that happens, any superficial comparison is bound  \nto be irrelevant =\r\nwith respect to what really matters to translators.\n\n\n\n\n\nJean-Christophe He=\r\nlary\n\n------------------------------------\nhttp://mac4translators.blogspot.=\r\ncom/\n\n\n"}}