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The thread that won t go to sleep Just to make an observation, and because I haven t gone to bed yet: tiene in Spanish could be translated as he/she/it","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;gregory.vigo@gmail.com&gt;\r\nX-Sender: gregory.vigo@gmail.com\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 6279 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2010 03:52:48 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.46)\n  by m2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Sep 2010 03:52:48 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO n43d.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com) (66.163.169.157)\n  by mta3.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Sep 2010 03:52:48 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [69.147.65.173] by n43.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2010 03:52:48 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [98.137.34.34] by t15.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2010 03:52:48 -0000\r\nDate: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:52:46 -0000\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;i671ae+hes4@eGroups.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;001e01cb4edf$7f83d1d0$7e8b7570$@net&gt;\r\nUser-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;ISO-8859-1&quot;\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\nX-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster\r\nX-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose\r\nX-Originating-IP: 66.163.169.157\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0\r\nX-Yahoo-Post-IP: 80.174.250.183\r\nFrom: &quot;gregory.vigo&quot; &lt;gregory.vigo@gmail.com&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: automatically translating of segments\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=335442746; y=JGenAglyoPWLx1rpR8rCexnOzK-Lw-41tbSQwFg4BeTQKwIqFHIO\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: gregory.vigo\r\n\r\n... The thread that won&#39;t go to sleep\n\nJust to make an observation, and bec=\r\nause I haven&#39;t gone to bed yet:\n\n&quot;tiene&quot; in Spanish could be translated as =\r\nhe/she/it has in English and\n&quot;you have&quot; in English would likewise have (if =\r\nI&#39;m not mistaken) at least two translations into every romance language. \n\n=\r\nHowever, propagation isn&#39;t a huge problem when translating between those la=\r\nnguages, except in specific cases, because most texts have sentences (segme=\r\nnts) longer than one or two words.\n\nGregory\n\n\n--- In OmegaT@yahoogroups.com=\r\n, Kaiet Estrada &lt;kaiet1@...&gt; wrote:\n&gt;\n&gt; Hi:\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; For me, that it&#39;s alsol=\r\nlty necesary.\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; &gt; It vastly depends on the type of translation you=\r\n work with. Propagation\n&gt; &gt; is useful in 99,99% of the cases I handle (I&#39;ve=\r\n worked with OmegaT\n&gt; &gt; almost exclusively almost since it was first releas=\r\ned 8 years ago and I\n&gt; &gt; make my living with the tool).\n&gt; \n&gt; Probably, depe=\r\nnds the language that you are working.\n&gt; \n&gt; Think in the next sentece, that=\r\n usually must be easy translate.\n&gt; \n&gt; You have.\n&gt; \n&gt; Easy? Useful in 99,99%=\r\n? Good can ear you! In my case, will be more near to\n&gt; 20%. Think, 20%!\n&gt; \n=\r\n&gt; To basque, depend the situation, there are 4 correct translations.\n&gt; - Be=\r\nrorrek dauka. If you are talking with a person with more level than you.\n&gt; =\r\nAllwais must be used with clericals and similars.\n&gt; - Zuk daukazu. For norm=\r\nal used.\n&gt; - Hik duk. For used in informal situation, persons very nears, v=\r\nery\n&gt; coloquial, but only if you are talking with a boy/man.\n&gt; - Hik dun. F=\r\nor used in informal situation, persons very nears, very\n&gt; coloquial, but on=\r\nly if you are talking with a girl/woman.\n&gt; - Zuek daukazue. If You if worki=\r\nng in plural.\n&gt; \n&gt; In my case, will be more near to 20%. Think, only 20% in=\r\n the more easy case!\n&gt; In more complex sentence, the acuracy can down more.=\r\n\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; And that example, is repeat for all verbs and conjugations.\n&gt; \n&gt; I=\r\n can&#39;t think that OmegaT translation will be ok for me, never.\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; Engl=\r\nish or other similar languajes, the usefull for identical translations\n&gt; co=\r\nuld be high, but other tipe of languaje...\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; &gt; I am not sayi=\r\nng that such features should not be implemented, but that\n&gt; &gt; it is not imp=\r\nossible nor costly to find workarounds.\n&gt; \n&gt; \tThe only solution for me, is =\r\ntranslate with OmegaT, and wich\n&gt; translation, read and corretd the wrong t=\r\nranslation.\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; &gt;This is academic though, because the question=\r\n is not really &quot;can a solution\n&gt; be found&quot;, but &quot;what can be done to persua=\r\nde a developer to find a\n&gt; solution&quot;. Commercial or open-source, someone ha=\r\ns to do the work, and to\n&gt; have the necessary motivation.\n&gt; \n&gt; I understand=\r\n that. And I will wait the time that will be necesary. But\n&gt; please, don&#39;t =\r\nsay nobody that don&#39;t need, is not a problem. For many ones,\n&gt; it&#39;s problem=\r\n.\n&gt; \n&gt; I say thanks for all that work for nomoney. I can&#39;t buy a other CAT,=\r\n OmegaT,\n&gt; with that problem, do many work for me. I hope that do more, but=\r\n it&#39;s hope,\n&gt; and I can&#39;t bored people that works voluntary.\n&gt; \n&gt; And I hop=\r\ne, that example that I put, &quot;you have&quot; to basque, be useafull for\n&gt; who wor=\r\nks in deveploment os that.\n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; \n&gt; &gt; The rain\n&gt; &gt; in Spain\n&gt; &gt; falls =\r\nmainly\n&gt; &gt; on the plains.\n&gt; That&#39;s wrong. XXXD\n&gt; \n&gt; The song must be the ne=\r\nxt to be correct the Spanish translation\n&gt; En Sevilla\n&gt; Llueve\n&gt; que es\n&gt; U=\r\nna maravilla\n&gt; \n&gt; In Sevilla\n&gt; Rain&#39;s\n&gt; That is\n&gt; A marvelous.\n&gt; \n&gt; More th=\r\nan 40 years, and Warner not correct the subs for VO and use the\n&gt; adapted s=\r\nong for dubbed version and for theatre musical versions. Now\n&gt; Paramount ma=\r\nde the same. That&#39;s increible.\n&gt;\n\n\n\n"}}