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(ActiveState s PROPRIETARY version of tcl/tk), distribution of which is clearly limited by political reasons and not freely available to everybody. We ve","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nX-Sender: mail@marcprior.de\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 67952 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2008 14:04:53 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.94)\n  by m47.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Aug 2008 14:04:53 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) (81.169.146.161)\n  by mta15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2008 14:04:53 -0000\r\nX-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00\r\nX-RZG-AUTH: :IW0NeWCleu3NCLZrvwV6ORkX9kpsdepz7ym3QvLwqKG/CxzSJ1M8iFohLlqsuQ==\r\nX-Received: from [192.168.0.106] (p5086E238.dip.t-dialin.net [80.134.226.56])\n\tby post.webmailer.de (mrclete mo19) (RZmta 16.47)\n\twith ESMTP id C01ff0k7FChdsQ for &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;;\n\tFri, 15 Aug 2008 16:04:51 +0200 (MEST)\n\t(envelope-from: &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;)\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;48A58CD7.5020107@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nDate: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:04:07 +0200\r\nUser-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReferences: &lt;R05d2ek7DGJjff.RZmta@mi-ob.rzone.de&gt; &lt;48A3F53C.6090503@marcprior.de&gt; &lt;48A581A7.5040404@baldwinlinguas.com&gt; &lt;web-36299834@speedy.tutby.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;web-36299834@speedy.tutby.com&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\r\nX-Originating-IP: 81.169.146.161\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: Marc Prior &lt;mail@marcprior.de&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Article on Open Source Tools\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=12196177; y=hwSWeXMr4TjEtrWjYsXNQVStx_tSZhCR8I-m_epMjt9ChqXb\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: lin4trans\r\n\r\nDmitri Gabinski wrote:\n\n&gt; Your project has nothing to do with FOSS!\n \n&gt; Because to use your TransProCalc, a user must have another package \n(ActiveState&#39;s PROPRIETARY version of tcl/tk), distribution of which is \nclearly limited by political reasons and not freely available to everybody.\n\nWe&#39;ve already been over this. Does it have to be the ActiveState build? Won&#39;t any 8.5.2 build (such as that from SUSE for SUSE 11) work?\n\nMarc\n\n\n\n\n&gt; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:16:23 -0400, anthony baldwin \n&gt; &lt;anthony@baldwinlinguas.com&gt; skribis:\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; Choice and liberty are at the core of FOSS&#39;s beauty, clearly.\n&gt;&gt; Even within the FOSS world, we have choices for CAT tools:\n&gt;&gt; Transolution (wish someone would pick up development there again),\n&gt;&gt; Esperantilo, and, of course, our own OmegaT.\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; and Anaphraseus :-) I find it a good companion to OmegaT.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; I&#39;d like to see Trados pushed off it&#39;s perch, clearly.\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; What&#39;s wrong about it? Face the fact: many translators do pay a helluva \n&gt; price for that application. Thus, it&#39;s worthy, and fighting worthy things is \n&gt; basically as productive as fighting windmills.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; For me, the biggest issue is the use of proprietary formats,\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; Precisely.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; I can&#39;t fathom why, to this day, OpenOffice hasn&#39;t successfully toppled \n&gt;&gt; M$Orifice,\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; That&#39;s simple: because MSO toppled competition long ago.\n&gt;\n&gt;   \n&gt;&gt; One thing I believe the FOSS world is really missing for the translation \n&gt;&gt; industry is viable project management tools, (which is why I started\n&gt;&gt; TransProCalc).\n&gt;&gt;     \n&gt;\n&gt; Your project has nothing to do with FOSS!\n&gt;\n&gt; Because to use your TransProCalc, a user must have another package \n&gt; (ActiveState&#39;s PROPRIETARY version of tcl/tk), distribution of which is \n&gt; clearly limited by political reasons and not freely available to everybody.\n&gt;\n&gt; Best regards,\n&gt;\n&gt; Dmitri Gabinski\n&gt;    \n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; --------------\n&gt; ����������� �� �������� ���� &#39;������&#39; �� &#39;����&#39; � ������������/��������� \n&gt; SMS ������ ���� ��������� �� ����� ����! ����������� ����������� ������\n&gt; ��������� �����: &#39;������ 0&#39; � &#39;������ 12&#39;. ����������� �� http://www.best.by\n&gt;\n&gt; ------------------------------------\n&gt;\n&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n&gt; IRC channel: irc://irc.freenode.net/omegat\n&gt; For bug reports, feature requests, OmegaT test versions etc...\n&gt; Go to: http://sourceforge.net/projects/omegat/\n&gt; To localize OmegaT to your language, or proofread existing translations,\n&gt; read: http://www.omegat.org/omegat/omegat_en/translation-info.html\n&gt; If OmegaT makes you richer than you need, check the Pine Ridge Reservation&#39;s\n&gt; charities for a donation: http://www.friendsofpineridgereservation.org/\n&gt; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\n&gt; Yahoo! 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