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I was assuming that those would be good things for","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;zeraeiro@clix.pt&gt;\r\nX-Sender: zeraeiro@clix.pt\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 50949 invoked from network); 7 May 2008 11:33:27 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (66.218.67.96)\n  by m55.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 May 2008 11:33:27 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO n17d.bullet.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.67.56)\n  by mta17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 May 2008 11:33:27 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n17.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2008 11:33:27 -0000\r\nX-Received: from [66.218.66.86] by t4.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 May 2008 11:33:27 -0000\r\nDate: Wed, 07 May 2008 11:33:26 -0000\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;fvs426+nerf@eGroups.com&gt;\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;719788.59089.qm@web26302.mail.ukl.yahoo.com&gt;\r\nUser-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nContent-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;ISO-8859-1&quot;\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\nX-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster\r\nX-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose\r\nX-Originating-IP: 66.218.67.56\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:6:0:0:0\r\nX-Yahoo-Post-IP: 193.137.24.80\r\nFrom: &quot;joseraeiro&quot; &lt;zeraeiro@clix.pt&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Training / Word count\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=211655804; y=dK8ojEZsW51FqT8KztDCittAc_jcjGund09h_Pwz23C7KPZO2A\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: joseraeiro\r\n\r\n--- In OmegaT@yahoogroups.com, &quot;S. Tomaskovic&quot; &lt;tomaskovicde@...&gt; wrote:\n\n&gt;=\r\n &gt;\n&gt; You have brought up a lot of arguments here like monetary value,\nincre=\r\nase of market share and visibility to potential users, etc. \n&gt; Have you eve=\r\nr considered that we are not striving for these things,\nand why we don&#39;t?\n\n=\r\nWell, not really. I was assuming that those would be good things for\nthe pr=\r\noject. We could discuss why would it be good for the project to\nhave such t=\r\nhings, but I guess that would be slightly off-topic,\nbecause that discussio=\r\nn would be about open source and not omegaT.\n\nBut, I think there still is a=\r\n misunderstanding. Here&#39;s what happened:\n\nMe: Is there OmegaT certification=\r\n?\nYou: No, because there&#39;s no demand for it. (Only after Marc said he\nthink=\r\ns it&#39;s some kind of ripoff).\nMe: If that&#39;s the problem, maybe some demand c=\r\nould be created.\nYou: You have a economical self-interest in this!\n\nWell, t=\r\nhis is not the case. I was only addressing the &quot;problems&quot;\nraised by you. I =\r\nonly think that it would be good for the reasons\npreviously mentioned. The =\r\nbottom-line being: It would be great to have\na tool with credibility in the=\r\n formation to be able to use with\neveryone (even those who think certificat=\r\nion is a good idea).\n\n&gt; &gt; \n&gt; Really? Wow, you&#39;ll need to show me those beca=\r\nuse I haven&#39;t.\n\nhttp://proz.com/ Just browse some job offerings.\n\n\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; Ha=\r\nve you ever considered that the project may not really be aiming\nto achieve=\r\n this?\n\nIt depends on what you call &quot;this project&quot;. But of course you may n=\r\not\nbe aiming to achieve this. I wasn&#39;t saying you should. In fact, I\ndidn&#39;t=\r\n say it would be good at all. All I said was that demand could\nbe created.\n=\r\n\n\n\n&gt; \n&gt; I don&#39;t think so. Again you are mentioning certification as being a=\r\nn\nadvantage in itself, and I have to disagree strongly. Even an MS\ncertific=\r\nation in itself will not bring you any jobs if you do not have\nthe necessar=\r\ny background or your customers simply don&#39;t care.\n\nIndeed. Like before, I n=\r\never said that a certification would be the\nonly thing you&#39;d need. That wou=\r\nld be ridiculous of me. Of course there\nis a zillion other things more impo=\r\nrtant.\n\n\n\n\n&gt; \n&gt; \n\n&gt;The client won&#39;t know how they acquired their knowledge =\r\nabout a\n&gt;certain tool, they&#39;ll just see the end product and either like it =\r\nor\n&gt;not - and that may be the result of a number of factors.\n\nPrecisely. Th=\r\ne certification could provide at least *some* assurance\nabout where and wha=\r\nt that person learned to use said tool...\n\n\n\n&gt; World domination. Maybe I ca=\r\nnnot speak for the entire project team,\n&gt;but I think that most of us have n=\r\no such plans for OmT.\n\n:) It&#39;s just about making things work better. It&#39;s n=\r\not about world\ndomination, although I must confess that would be a nice plu=\r\ns.\n\n&gt; \n\n&gt; \n&gt; I would personally like to point you to the following site, wh=\r\nich I\nthink summarizes very well what the open source world is really about=\r\n.\n(I&#39;ve never seen a site that uses such clear and blunt language.) I\nrecom=\r\nmend you read problem #7 very thoroughly, there&#39;s a lot in there\nthat some =\r\npeople just cannot grasp (simply replace Linux with OmT).\n&gt; \n&gt; Here&#39;s the l=\r\nink:\n&gt; http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm\n\nLike it should be expected, I=\r\n already know that article since 2/3\nyears ago. It&#39;s an excellent article w=\r\nhich deals with several issues\nrelating open-source.\n\nBut, since you think =\r\nI need to be told such obvious things like Linux\nis not Windows and/or OmT =\r\nis not X/Y, maybe I shall state some other\npertinent facts:\n\nFree software =\r\nis free because, you know, it&#39;s free.\n\nThe big advantage about being free i=\r\nt&#39;s because it brings freedom to\nthe users.\n\nAnd so, OmT should be whatever=\r\n it&#39;s users want it to be. When you say:\n&quot;We don&#39;t want no market share&quot;. A=\r\nre you speaking for the entire\ncommunity? \n\nAbout the point #7, there are s=\r\neveral obvious issues. One of the most\nobvious:\n\nGiven enough eyes, all bug=\r\ns will be shallow.\n\nMarket share =3D=3D more eyes.\n\nAnd of course the more =\r\nthe people, the more the volunteers, etc.\n\nWe could go on and on, I think i=\r\nt&#39;s off-topic (and obvious).\n\nPlease let me reafirm that all I did was addr=\r\ness your remark of &quot;There\nisn&#39;t a demand&quot;. If that was a problem, all I sai=\r\nd was: &quot;let&#39;s fix\nit&quot;. I never said I had a personal interest, which I do n=\r\not, besides\nbeing able to use a great tool in the best of manners possible.=\r\n\n\nCheers!\n\nJos=E9 Raeiro\n\n\n\n"}}