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It sounds like I wouldn t harm me to read better the TMX specification ","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;m.soutopico@gmail.com&gt;\r\nX-Sender: m.soutopico@gmail.com\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Received: (qmail 53632 invoked from network); 16 Jan 2010 10:26:30 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (98.137.34.45)\n  by m11.grp.re1.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jan 2010 10:26:30 -0000\r\nX-Received: from unknown (HELO fg-out-1718.google.com) (72.14.220.159)\n  by mta2.grp.sp2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jan 2010 10:26:30 -0000\r\nX-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e21so117858fga.1\n        for &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:26:29 -0800 (PST)\r\nMIME-Version: 1.0\r\nX-Received: by 10.87.64.6 with SMTP id r6mr4109613fgk.19.1263637589099; Sat, 16 \n\tJan 2010 02:26:29 -0800 (PST)\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;008001ca968b$65b239c0$3116ad40$@com&gt;\r\nReferences: &lt;AOEHKCKOIOGPGCNLDEKBGEOCGGAA.d.briel@free.fr&gt; \n\t&lt;4B504374.8040906@absamail.co.za&gt; &lt;8bb717a91001150908p23069f9s7dee6159e76c2ea7@mail.gmail.com&gt; \n\t&lt;8bb717a91001151105v7c1033eagaf338439df7d76fb@mail.gmail.com&gt; \n\t&lt;008001ca968b$65b239c0$3116ad40$@com&gt;\r\nDate: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:26:09 +0100\r\nMessage-ID: &lt;8bb717a91001160226w222c639uec913cc2ec3d9272@mail.gmail.com&gt;\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nX-Originating-IP: 72.14.220.159\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0:0\r\nFrom: Manuel Souto Pico &lt;m.soutopico@gmail.com&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] Getting fuzzy matches with markup\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=204184108; y=cs4AB7sfCFtcrOW0oSqqXrwVvnIPcTvopPB5GDBwyAU4od-nxFhKTw\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: xinalasnjicov\r\nContent-Type: text/plain\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable\r\n\r\nHello Yves,\n\nThank you very much for your reply and your explanation, it&#39;s =\r\nclearer\nnow. It sounds like I wouldn&#39;t harm me to read better the TMX speci=\r\nfication\n;)\n\nUnfortunately I had tried what is supposed to be correct TMX\n\n=\r\nseg&gt;Maz=E1s&lt;bpt i=3D&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/bpt&gt;Maz=E1s vermellas e verdes&lt;/seg&gt;\n=\r\n\n\nbut the outcome is the same.\n\nLast modified by souto on 16/Jan/2010 at 11=\r\n:18:14\nApples&lt;b0/&gt;Red and green apples\n&lt;segmento 0001&gt; Maz=E1s&lt;br /&gt;Maz=E1s=\r\n vermellas e verdes &lt;fim do segmento&gt;\n\nand it&#39;s saved in the target file as=\r\n\n\n        &lt;source&gt;&lt;tag id=3D&quot;1&quot;/&gt;Apples&lt;br/&gt;Red and green apples&lt;/source&gt;\n =\r\n       &lt;target&gt;&lt;tag id=3D&quot;1&quot;/&gt;Maz=E1s&lt;br /&gt;Maz=E1s vermellas e\nverdes=\r\n&lt;/target&gt;\n\nI don&#39;t know what I can be doing wrong!\n\nThanks a lot.\nCheers, M=\r\nanuel\n\n\n2010/1/16 Yves Savourel &lt;yves@opentag.com&gt;\n\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; I think there is =\r\na confusion on what a &quot;tag&quot; is in TMX:\n&gt;\n&gt; If you have this in your TMX:\n&gt;\n=\r\n&gt; &quot;&lt;seg&gt;Apples&lt;br/&gt;Red and green apples&lt;/seg&gt;&quot;\n&gt; From the viewpoint o=\r\nf TMX/OmegaT there is no tag. &quot;&lt;br/&gt;&quot; is not a\n&gt; tag, it&#39;s some\n&gt; tex=\r\nt that looks like a tag.\n&gt;\n&gt; If you have this in your TMX:\n&gt; &quot;&lt;seg&gt;Apples&lt;b=\r\nr/&gt;Red and green apples&lt;/seg&gt;&quot;\n&gt; That is an invalid TMX entry: &quot;&lt;br/&gt;&quot; does=\r\n not exists in TMX. You should\n&gt; get an error.\n&gt;\n&gt; If you have this in your=\r\n TMX:\n&gt;\n&gt; &quot;&lt;seg&gt;Apples&lt;bpt i=3D&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/bpt&gt;Red and green apples&lt;/s=\r\neg&gt;&quot;\n&gt; That is a correct TMX element, indicating that there is a code that =\r\nlooks\n&gt; like &quot;&lt;br/&gt;&quot; at\n&gt; this position.\n&gt; This will be shown as &quot;Apples&lt;b0=\r\n/&gt;Red and green apples&quot; in OmegaT. And\n&gt; saved back as &quot;&lt;bpt\n&gt; i=3D&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;=\r\nbr/&gt;&lt;/bpt&gt;&quot; in the target file.\n&gt;\n&gt; Hope this helps.\n&gt; -ys\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; -----Or=\r\niginal Message-----\n&gt; From: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com &lt;OmegaT%40yahoogroups.co=\r\nm&gt; [mailto:\n&gt; OmegaT@yahoogroups.com &lt;OmegaT%40yahoogroups.com&gt;] On Behalf =\r\nOf Manuel\n&gt; Souto\n&gt; Pico\n&gt; Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:05 PM\n&gt; To: Ome=\r\ngaT@yahoogroups.com &lt;OmegaT%40yahoogroups.com&gt;\n&gt; Subject: Re: [OmT] Getting=\r\n fuzzy matches with markup\n&gt;\n&gt; Hi again,\n&gt;\n&gt; I&#39;ve edited my tmx file and st=\r\narted working in this new way. I think it&#39;s\n&gt; not as good as I thought. My =\r\nreason for using OmegaT for this is that a\n&gt; very\n&gt; long bundle of tags wit=\r\nh maaaaany attributes collapses just to a few\n&gt; &lt;x0/&gt;&lt;x1/&gt; tags, which is v=\r\nery convenient when a long segment is composed\n&gt; mainly of tags and has few=\r\n text. So it doesn&#39;t really matter whether I get\n&gt;\n&gt; Apples*&lt;b0/&gt;*Red and g=\r\nreen apples\n&gt; &lt;segmento 0001&gt; Maz=E1s*&lt;br /&gt;*Maz=E1s vermellas e verdes &lt;fi=\r\nm do segmento&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; or\n&gt;\n&gt; Apples*&lt;b0/&gt;*Red and green apples\n&gt; &lt;segmento 000=\r\n1&gt; Maz=E1s*&lt;b0 /&gt;*Maz=E1s vermellas e verdes &lt;fim do segmento&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; when I a=\r\nccept the fuzzy match if there&#39;s just a line break, but it does\n&gt; when\n&gt; I =\r\nhave many tags with many attributes (really, a lot). Could you give any\n&gt; f=\r\ninal push to get the latter instead of the former?\n&gt;\n&gt; Cheers, Manuel\n&gt;\n&gt; 2=\r\n010/1/15 Manuel Souto Pico &lt;m.soutopico@gmail.com&lt;m.soutopico%40gmail.com&gt;\n=\r\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; &gt; Hi guys!\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; Thank you Didier, Samuel and Yves, you have been=\r\n very helpful. Indeed\n&gt; &gt; writing the angled brackets in the tmx file as en=\r\ntity references did the\n&gt; &gt; trick. I tried also writing OmegaT tags (&lt;bpt i=\r\n=3D&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/bpt&gt;)\n&gt; and\n&gt; &gt; it works too but as the outcome would =\r\nbe exactly the same (exactly??)\n&gt; I&#39;ll\n&gt; &gt; use the less complex form, simpl=\r\ny:\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; &lt;tuv lang=3D&quot;EN&quot;&gt;\n&gt; &gt; &lt;seg&gt;Apples&lt;br /&gt;Red and green apple=\r\ns&lt;/seg&gt;\n&gt; &gt; &lt;/tuv&gt;\n&gt; &gt; &lt;tuv lang=3D&quot;GL&quot; changedate=3D&quot;20091105T014524Z&quot; cha=\r\nngeid=3D&quot;souto&quot;&gt;\n&gt; &gt; &lt;seg&gt;Maz=E1s&lt;br /&gt;Maz=E1s vermellas e verdes&lt;/se=\r\ng&gt;\n&gt; &gt; &lt;/tuv&gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; And it seems not only do I get the fuzzy match marked=\r\n-up, but also the\n&gt; tags\n&gt; &gt; are colored. Great! However, there&#39;s one minor=\r\n detail worth mentioning:\n&gt; now\n&gt; &gt; the fuzzy quality should be 100%100%/10=\r\n0% but it&#39;s even lower than\n&gt; before.\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; 1) Apples&lt;br /&gt;Red and green =\r\napples\n&gt; &gt; Maz=E1s&lt;br /&gt;Maz=E1s vermellas e verdes\n&gt; &gt; &lt;83/83/61% tm_test.t=\r\nmx &gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; I guess that&#39;s because now there&#39;s a mismatch between the sour=\r\nce target\n&gt; in\n&gt; &gt; the source file and in the tm, i.e. &quot;Apples*&lt;b0/&gt;*Red an=\r\nd green apples&quot;\n&gt; &gt; vs. &quot;Apples*&lt;br /&gt;*Red and green apples&quot;, respectively.=\r\n In fact, the\n&gt; &gt; updated TU looks like:\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; Last modified by souto on =\r\n15/Jan/2010 at 17:34:41\n&gt; &gt; Apples*&lt;b0/&gt;*Red and green apples\n&gt; &gt; &lt;segmento=\r\n 0001&gt; Maz=E1s*&lt;br /&gt;*Maz=E1s vermellas e verdes &lt;fim do segmento&gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; =\r\nNo problem there? I guess no.\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; I tried running the Tag Validation, t=\r\nhinking that it would spot the\n&gt; &gt; mismatches in terms of same quality and =\r\nsame quantity of tags in the\n&gt; source\n&gt; &gt; and the target (that is, whether =\r\nthere&#39;re the same number of tags and\n&gt; &gt; whether they are the same tags), b=\r\nut it seems it can only spot whether\n&gt; the\n&gt; &gt; embbedding and the id number=\r\n of the tag are correct.\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; Yes, well spotted, Yves, my XLIFF example =\r\nwasn&#39;t valid. That&#39;s because I\n&gt; &gt; tried to simplify it as much as I could =\r\n(manually) while keeping the same\n&gt; &gt; kind of file to give you a faithful i=\r\ndea of the original files, and one\n&gt; tag\n&gt; &gt; slipped in.\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; Once again=\r\n, thank you all for your valuable input, and for helping me\n&gt; &gt; understand =\r\nthis great tool a bit more every day :)\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; Cheers, Manuel\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt; =\r\n2010/1/15 Samuel Murray (Durbanville) &lt;leuce@absamail.co.za&lt;leuce%40absamai=\r\nl.co.za&gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; Didier Briel wrote:\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; From: OmegaT=\r\n@yahoogroups.com &lt;OmegaT%40yahoogroups.com&gt; &lt;OmegaT%\n&gt; 40yahoogroups.com&gt; [=\r\nmailto:\n&gt; &gt;&gt; OmegaT@yahoogroups.com &lt;OmegaT%40yahoogroups.com&gt; &lt;OmegaT%\n&gt; 4=\r\n0yahoogroups.com&gt;]On Behalf Of\n&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; Samuel Murray (Durbanville)\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; =\r\n&gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Isn&#39;t this what you want?\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;tu&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;tuv lang=3D&quot;E=\r\nN&quot;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;seg&gt;Apples&lt;br /&gt;Red and green apples&lt;/seg&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; I=\r\nn level 1, yes, but you can have also\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;tu&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;tuv lang=3D&quot;EN&quot;&gt;\n=\r\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;seg&gt;Apples&lt;bpt i=3D&quot;1&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/bpt&gt;Red and green apples&lt;/seg&gt;=\r\n\n&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; &lt;/tuv&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; Thanks, Didier, but my point to the OP was that hi=\r\ns tags should use &lt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; and &gt; instead of &lt; and &gt;. It is my understan=\r\nding that OmegaT won&#39;t\n&gt; &gt;&gt; interpret the tags as tags unless they use &lt;=\r\n (and possibly also &gt;,\n&gt; &gt;&gt; but I have never tried it with just &lt;, so=\r\n I don&#39;t know for certain\n&gt; &gt;&gt; whether leaving the &gt; would have any effect =\r\non OmegaT).\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt; Samuel\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;&gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt; &gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; [Non-text portions =\r\nof this message have been removed]\n&gt;\n&gt; ------------------------------------=\r\n\n&gt;\n&gt;\n&gt; The OmegaT Project Philosophy:\n&gt; http://www.omegat.org/en/philosophy=\r\n.html\n&gt; The OmegaT Project and You:\n&gt; http://www.omegat.org/en/involved.htm=\r\nl\n&gt;\n&gt; OmegaT contributors should join the &quot;omegat-development&quot; group\n&gt; Omeg=\r\naT localizers should join the &quot;omegat-l10n&quot; group\n&gt; http://sourceforge.net/=\r\nmail/?group_id=3D68187\n&gt;\n&gt; IRC channel: http://java.freenode.net//index.php=\r\n?channel=3Domegat\n&gt; or: irc://irc.freenode.net/omegat\n&gt; Bug reports, featur=\r\ne requests, OmegaT test versions etc...:\n&gt; http://sourceforge.net/projects/=\r\nomegat/\n&gt;\n&gt; ------------------------------------\n&gt;\n&gt; Yahoo! 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