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Raya","from":"&quot;Rodolfo M. Raya&quot; &lt;rmraya@maxprograms.com&gt;","profile":"rmraya","replyTo":"LIST","senderId":"OQ6C3rJMTTqtS6Bd9RAMx5WPtXMCMYGx75gTGQN82_ozkbAYRiuKiaMb64JLQKIXfdQFJZn5CwlECcd6zo1_iESUMqWwnxDdDXuRMlZUFptE","spamInfo":{"isSpam":false,"reason":"12"},"subject":"Re: [OmT] OmT - Server/Client","postDate":"1118872384","msgId":2314,"canDelete":true,"contentTrasformed":false,"systemMessage":false,"headers":{"messageIdInHeader":"PDExMTg4NzIzODQuOTYzOS4yNDIuY2FtZWxAZGV2ZWwubWF4cHJvZ3JhbXMuY29tPg==","inReplyToHeader":"PGQ4cHYyZitwMzdiQGVHcm91cHMuY29tPg==","referencesHeader":"PGQ4cHYyZitwMzdiQGVHcm91cHMuY29tPg=="},"prevInTopic":2311,"nextInTopic":2315,"prevInTime":2313,"nextInTime":2315,"topicId":2284,"numMessagesInTopic":16,"msgSnippet":"On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 19:20 +0000, Robert Tucker wrote: Hi, ... The format selected by a cat tool so store translation data is irrelevant. It can be anything","rawEmail":"Return-Path: &lt;rmraya@maxprograms.com&gt;\r\nX-Sender: rmraya@maxprograms.com\r\nX-Apparently-To: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nReceived: (qmail 17754 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2005 21:55:25 -0000\r\nReceived: from unknown (66.218.66.216)\n  by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2005 21:55:25 -0000\r\nReceived: from unknown (HELO devel.maxprograms.com) (200.40.45.238)\n  by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2005 21:55:24 -0000\r\nReceived: from devel.maxprograms.com (devel.maxprograms.com [127.0.0.1])\n\tby devel.maxprograms.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5FLr54G016591\n\tfor &lt;OmegaT@yahoogroups.com&gt;; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:53:06 -0300\r\nReceived: (from rmraya@localhost)\n\tby devel.maxprograms.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5FLr5vd016590\n\tfor OmegaT@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:53:05 -0300\r\nX-Authentication-Warning: devel.maxprograms.com: rmraya set sender to rmraya@maxprograms.com using -f\r\nTo: OmegaT@yahoogroups.com\r\nIn-Reply-To: &lt;d8pv2f+p37b@eGroups.com&gt;\r\nReferences: &lt;d8pv2f+p37b@eGroups.com&gt;\r\nContent-Type: text/plain\r\nContent-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit\r\nOrganization: Maxprograms\r\nDate: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:53:04 -0300\r\nMessage-Id: &lt;1118872384.9639.242.camel@devel.maxprograms.com&gt;\r\nMime-Version: 1.0\r\nX-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.4 (2.0.4-4) \r\nX-Originating-IP: 200.40.45.238\r\nX-eGroups-Msg-Info: 2:12:4\r\nFrom: &quot;Rodolfo M. Raya&quot; &lt;rmraya@maxprograms.com&gt;\r\nSubject: Re: [OmT] OmT - Server/Client\r\nX-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=11883813; y=QoE5eKWOVUCqv0paV6AJKCFdP_rVtpWmBJ2Ftkf3Z6g3\r\nX-Yahoo-Profile: rmraya\r\n\r\nOn Wed, 2005-06-15 at 19:20 +0000, Robert Tucker wrote:\n\nHi,\n\n&gt; As I understand it, XLIFF is mainly concerned with maintaining the\n&gt; structure of the document between the source file and the target file.\n&gt; As well as its own tag system, I believe OmegaT has the TMX file\n&gt; central to the translation process. Hence if you use a database the\n&gt; need for XLIFF and TMX is diminished. \n\nThe format selected by a cat tool so store translation data is\nirrelevant. It can be anything as long as a translator can translate\ndocuments in a given format and obtain a translated document in the same\nformat. In other words, as long as a translator can translate an HTML\npage from one language to another, it does not matter if the CAT tool\nhas a database, uses XLIFF, TMX or any proprietary format to store\ninternal data while translation is in progress.\n\nTranslators don&#39;t live isolated in caves. They need to deal with\ncustomers and translation agencies to make a living. Translators working\nwith computers need to exchange files with other people and this\ngenerates problems that standards try to solve. Lets see:\n\n1) Customers provide their source documents in a great variety of\nformats\n\n2) Translation agencies own expensive software and ask translators to\nwork with tools compatible with their systems\n\n3) Translators do not own every conceivable tool for editing source\ndocuments\n\n4) Translators may need to share work with colleagues to handle large\njobs\n\n5) Anything you can think of. You name it. If you are an experienced\ntranslator, you&#39;ve seen many complications before.\n\n\nWhat options are there to help? Nothing is magic. It is necessary a\ncombination of factors to ease translators life. And agencies lives too,\nthey also have to deal with people.\n\nA group of large companies seeking for a way to save money in\ntranslation-related tasks, defined a set of standards that actually\nhelped them in their goals. The standards that affect translators lives\nare: XML, XLIFF, TMX, SRX and TBX.\n\n\nXML provides the first valid option for exchanging data. After 20 years\nof ongoing efforts, SGML gave birth to a healthy child that rapidly was\nadopted by most large software companies. Even Microsoft surrendered and\nannounced that XML will be the default format in the future version of\nMS Office.\n\nXLIFF is a format designed to hold the data that a translator needs to\ncomplete a translation job. The goal of the designers was to let\ntranslators choose one CAT tool and use it to translate documents from\ndifferent source formats. For example, a translator using a tool that\nsupports XLIFF does not need to buy FrameMaker to translate a MIF file.\nThe translation agency hiring its services can provide an XLIFF version\nof the FrameMaker file and the translator works with the tool he likes.\nCAT tools currently supporting XLIFF format are:\n\n * Heartsome Translation Suite\n * Passolo\n * LocFactory\n * SDLX\n * Trados 7 (will be generally available on a week or two)\n * Catalyst\n * ENLASO&#39;s tools \n * Multilizer\n * Sun&#39;s Tools (to be open sourced very soon)\n\nThere are others, like Transolution or KBabel that also support this\nstandard, but they are either not ready yet or lack advertising. \n\nAt this moment it is possible to convert a great variety of document\nformats to XLIFF. Practically everything a translator needs now a days.\n\nA translator working with a CAT tool may receive a translation memories\nfrom the hiring agency to booster his productivity. It would not be fair\nto force the translator to buy the tool used by the agency, so a\nstandard for exchanging translation memories (TMX) was invented by, not\nsurprisingly, the same group of large corporations interested on getting\ncheaper translations.\n\nMost CAT tools support exchanging data in TMX format. There are two\nkinds of exchanges:\n\n1) Only the text that is translatable\n2) The text plus all formatting information\n\nAll the tools mentioned above support the fourth revision of TMX\nstandard (TMX 1.4) and almost all of them support text with formatting\n(this option is also known as TMX Level 2). \n\nAs it was difficult for a CAT tool to handle formatting information\ngenerated by other tools, the rules for the exchange were made very\nclear and now with TMX 1.4 it is possible to reuse all the information.\n\nAs a compliment for TMX files with full formatting info, a special\nstandard that describes the rules used for breaking segments was\ninvented. That standard is SRX (Segmentation Rules eXchange) and it is\nbecoming more and more important every day. Many of the CAT tools listed\nabove already support SRX and all of them will probably do so in less\nthan a year from now.\n\nTranslators not only depend on translation memories, glossaries are also\nimportant. To facilitate the exchange of terminology, another standard\nwas created: TBX (TermBase eXchange). Unfortunately, this standard is\nnot very popular yet. Time will tell if this standard is widely adopted\nor not.\n\nAnd now back to where all this started: a CAT tool can use or not a\ndatabase and support whatever standard its designers want. As said, this\nis irrelevant. It only matters if the tool can translate the documentas\nthat the translator needs or not.\n\nRegards,\nRodolfo\n-- \nRodolfo M. Raya &lt;rmraya@maxprograms.com&gt;\nMaxprograms\n\n"}}